Paper patched bullets for 30-30

Mar 04, 2015 unique and 4198 would be the powders that i would try first, out of what you have on hand. The art of paper patching, 3006 series introduction youtube. The patch lube has but one purpose to prevent tearing the patch when the bullet is seated. The charge selected would produce 2000 fps with the heavy. The 31141 hp is a fine hunting bullet for deersized game in the. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot.

It is not safe to use spitzer style bullets in a tubular magazine. A pp bullet simply has straight sides and the bullet is wrapped with a very thin sheet of paper. Our 170 grain round nose partition and 150 grain ct ballistic silvertip were designed specifically for the. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs.

Because the 3855 was a modest seller, compared to the 3030 and other cases that had been derived from the 3855, this approach made good economic sense. Oct 14, 2002 if you are going to do the bp 3030 why not go the whole 9 yards and load it with paper patched soft lead bullets and drive it at jacketed speed. Also, perhaps a slightly larger bullet dia such as 0. Unique and 4198 would be the powders that i would try first, out of what you have on hand. After hammering out the bullet, i tried moistening the bullets with felix lube, and sizing was easy after that. Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. The cast hollowpoint hp bullet is arguably one of the best hunting bullets available for deersized game. Lowspeed heavy bullet expansion the view from north. Winchester metal patched 110 grain super speed bullets for 30 w.

Think 1,000 fps to 1,200 fps for lead alloy bullets 90% lead plus 5% tin and 5% antimony or even as low as 800 fps tp 900 fps for pure lead. The sharp nose of a spitzer bullet resting on the primer of the next cartridge in front of it can cause detonation in the magazine. Use powdered graphite on a scrap of chamois skin and rub it into the patch on loaded rounds, this adds even more lube to. I shoot paper patched cast with black powder in 444 marlin and 454 casull 20 single shot rifle and smokeless 3030 in a 336 marlin and 3040 in an 1896 krag spotter.

The 10 early, unheadstamped ctdgs each have their 500 gr paperpatched bullets carefully protected in tissue paper as wrapped by the factory. He also says for the paper he has trouble wrapping them as well, so he used the peel off labels from the stationary store. Loading with correct 3855 winchester cases 3855 rifle. If you are willing to have such a fine old rifle modified you could have a top notch bpcr gunsmith open the chamber to what ever size you want. Reloading 3030 winchester with pyrodex miscellaneous. But, one does wonder why winchester found it worthwhile to shorten the neckeddown 38. If you can generate a quality sight picture, you can get a bullet on it. But the time and effort it takes to learn how to patch and load to do this is staggering.

There is no major disadvantage to the shouldered or swc style of bullet for short to medium range 100300 yards. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paperpatched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Winchester rifles are good shooters of cast as are marlin firearms of all types, their lever action guns feature. The accuracy issue needs some work but it really is a doable proposition. The bullets im actually interested in paper patching would be for the.

Fiverd box of these scarce cartridges w their long case and bright white paper patched bullets. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. I have now successfully paper patched bullets in 2 cartridges. Ive been interested in 30 caliber paper patch bullets since the early 70s when i first read the articles by col. Any orders placed on or before the 15th will be shipped within the week. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. The 10 early, unheadstamped ctdgs each have their 500 gr paper patched bullets carefully protected in tissue paper as wrapped by the factory. Slightly larger patched bullet should stay in case better, exp with the suggested slight taper crimp just enough to firm up the loaded round beltfedarnie. Mar 06, 2014 wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. Paper patched bullets are made by winding a piece of paper, usually twice, around a lead bullet. Use lee case sizing lube on the paper before rolling, let dry then size. By the way, ive also used those paper patched bullets over 46 grs of 4895 in my garand with no leading and full function.

No, you do not need to shoot paper patched bullets. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. It had turned sideways at some point and was about 58. Many folks associate the use of cast hps with sixguns because of the popular writings of elmer keith and skeeter skelton, but cast hps can also be used to good effect in rifles. I have paper patched other bullets, but i think you would want a smallerdiameter bullet to be able to patch it. Suggest you check the castboolit site on paper patching for more info. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. It offers more violent expansion than is possible from typical jacketed ammo, and a single mould allows the bullet caster to make lifetime supply of his own expanding hunting bullets. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. I friend who was a sharps collector and cast bullet shooter told me the shallow rifling was actually used in originals for paper patched bullet. If it is not in stock please call us to order as we do not stock all of our molds.

The art of paper patching, how to make your paper patched. In that era, paper patched bullets were the most accurate design known for cartridge loading. These bullets are projectiles only, and are not loaded ammunition. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. The megamite is especially useful for large bore calibers from.

How to load ammunition for the 4050 sharps bottleneck using paper patched bullets. Paper patched bullets have no lube grooves like a conventional lead bullet. I started patching a 309 cast bullet sized down to 308 and then patching back up to 312. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. After testing a series of bullet diameters in four different rifles, two sweet spots were identified. Most of the pistol bullets and select rifle bullets are made with our heat treated wheel weight htw alloy. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. Marlin 30 30 s like oversize cast bullets so you are in luck. You can easily shoot all of these bullets to 1500 fps without problem.

In my opinion,the 3030 is an ideal candidate for hunting with cast bullets wth the 170 grain bullet you can geta velocity that is close to the top velocity in that caliber. I have been studying and playing with paper patched cast bullets lately. You can try paper patched bullets in your rifle or try very soft bullets and see if they will bump up. Paper patch boolits offer great advantages for us casters. You could also try turning the case mouths of expanded. Marlin 3030s like oversize cast bullets so you are in luck. Introduction to paper patching home made jacketed lead. For this reason, it sized the chamber to take best advantage of cartridges loaded with paper patched bullets. If you are going to do the bp 3030 why not go the whole 9 yards and load it with paper patched soft lead bullets and drive it at jacketed speed. If you paper patch your bullet,you can get higher velocity that is still safe. Paper patch 30 cal bullets free download programs internetbrand. The bullets im actually interested in paperpatching would be for the.

This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. Bullets recovered from berms were similar lots of deformation with little weight loss. I shoot paper patched cast with black powder in 444 marlin and 454 casull 20 single shot rifle and smokeless 30 30 in a 336 marlin and 30 40 in an 1896 krag spotter. They must be loaded by competent reloaders implementing the utmost caution, and consulting current gun powder loading data, for proper charges, component selection and reloading procedures, paying special attention to primer selection and overall cartridge length. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. Downside is theyll probably need to be paper patched to not lead up the bore horribly.

Reloading 160 grain round nose 3030 bullets hd duration. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. Many people prefer it to the smooth ogive type of bullet because the shoulder helps hold the paper patch from sliding back, if you overlap the edge slightly and use your thumbnail to crimp the edge of the paper over the shoulder. On half the bullets, i installed a gas check, while the other half did without. Something for greeby to think about, i remember reading a article a while back about using masking tape for a patch, and that it worked out pretty well. I found some really thin paper is the paper that shirts come wrapped in, very similar or perhaps even is tissue paper. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. Paper patching eliminates leading, but just paper patching a regular cast bullet makes for a tight fit in the bore and sometimes the paper will shred apart halfway down the barrel.

Lapping, slugging, and the largest selection of lbt design bullets. I have paperpatched other bullets, but i think you would want a smallerdiameter bullet to be able to patch it. Donpaper patched bullets with a ladder barrel sight and a german silver front blade is a good set up that will let you reach waaay out there. This series will dive into some keep facts in getting a paper patch boolit to shoot. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Lead bullets get higher velocities then metal jacketed bullets with the same powder charge. Kens, i do believe the paper patched bullet will overcome the rpmth and so does breach seating the bullets which is why i put so much design time into the 30xcb bullet. Secure online shopping for all your cast bullet needs. Ordering will be disabled beginning august 16th and resume september 1, 2019. Look for about a 15001600 fps load for shooting out to 200 yards. Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. This video will show the basic 2 wrap patch boolit.

Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. Contact us our business will be closed from august 16 31, 2019 while we take some time off. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. When used in front of a black powder charge, paper patched bullets work best when designed significantly smaller than groove diameter. Get a copy of the lyman cast bullet handbook it has loading data for the. Introduction to paper patching home made jacketed lead bullets.

Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet. The paper rides on top of the lands of the barrel, keeping lead fouling to zero and in many ways imparting accuracy that lube grooved bullets might have a hard time duplicating. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. So they make special molds for casting paperpatched bullets with and undersized smooth shank and an indent in the base to sort of tuck in the excess paper into that. Its been a great cast bullet accuracy wise an for longer range shooting as well as a hunting bullet but the initial run of molds got scooped up before i could purchase one and the recent group buy over on cast boolits i didnt find out about till it was closed. Now, i my interest in cast bullets is rekindled, mostly for bpcr, but also would like to. Most all lead bullets, including those that are paper patched, are shot at around 1,900 fps or in case of plain lead non paper patched bullets a lot less. Paul matthews cautions how you load the bppyrodex powder into the shell. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration.

In that era, paperpatched bullets were the most accurate design known for cartridge loading. Ive been following all this paper patch thing, as i have been wanting to try it for several years but never have. Custom quality cast bullet molds for sale buffalo arms. Mar 22, 2015 paper patched bullets have no lube grooves like a conventional lead bullet. I have not done it yet but all my reading and results so far indicate that cast lead can be driven way past 2000 fps when properly paper patched. Buffalo hunters did it around the campfire after the hunt. You will only need enough lube peasized to cover the patch.